Re: NVDACon 2020 post-mortem analysis: success, moving to a different platform, Twitter feed
According to what I've seen, Zoom can be paid month-by-month, but
the web offers anual plans by default. Anual prices are usually
equal to 10 months.
Additionally, for nonprofit organizations, at least here in spain, zoom seems to offer a 50% discount on all plans, 1 plan request per organization per year, via Techsoup. As Techsoup is an international company, I think similar offers would be available in other countries.
I don't think moving from TeamTalk is a fundamental need for conferences such as NVDACon or our local meeting, but to be honest some people was complaining about TeamTalk also during our last conference, held in last month; however there wasn't such a strong debate as in NVDACon's openning forum.
Congratulations on all your work. Regards.
Iván Novegil Cancelas
O 08/12/2020 á(s) 2:20, Robert Hänggi escribiu:
Thanks Quentin for the kind words I must say it was such a pleasure and so inspirational to work with you one to one that I didn't mind staying up wide into the small hours (like now where it is 2:00 am here). Especially in the first weeks when I felt like doing a one-man show and reaching out to you was soothing to my mental balance. Our "conspiracy" produced some great ideas of which not all could make it into the conference as yet but they are burnt into our sub conscience (or just the email archive) so that they could pop up any time again. I'm looking forward to work with you again in whichever role that might be. Cheers Robert On 08/12/2020, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:Congratulations Joseph, Robert, Derek, Austin, Laura and everyone involved on running a very successful and well received NVDACon, great job! Joseph, you will be missed, but you have setup a great foundation and got a talented group of people holding the fort so enjoy your time away from running the show next year! In terms of cost, NV Access are certainly willing to contribute financially to whatever solution is going to work best for the conference organisers and participants - although of course we need to be able to justify the expense as well, and it may be that approaching a particular platform about sponsorship is worthwhile. For now, congratulations again on a great conference, and I look forward to hearing the recordings! Quentin. On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:48 AM Robert Hänggi <aarjay.robert@...> wrote:Hi Again, for reference, here is the pricing page of zoom: https://zoom.us/pricing I'm horrified when I check the feature we want and read the total cost. I've read comments like "If they can't afford $10 per month, I will gladly pay it from my own pocket". This is very misleading. The minimum plan for our purpose costs $200 per year The ideal plan (with phone calling, enough participants, live streaming, multiple rooms, replays, better website integration and so on) amounts to $1200 per year. Some people said that we could use their accounts. I don't know how you feel about it but I don't like the thought to be dependant on others. Nonetheless, we will check out the options and Doug lee (as Joseph said) is composing a workbook with all the possibilities. Cheers Robert On 08/12/2020, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:Yes you are correct James. I wonder between NV Access and individuals/non for proffit orgs around the world with some promotion etc. could raise money to use Zoom? If the NVDA community worldwide starts something like this now that would be great. Yeah I know many folks can't donate, but if we get said orgs for the blind on board that would be a running start. On 12/7/2020 6:27 PM, James Teh wrote:I'd respectfully point out that Zoom is not free - it actually ends up being quite costly for something like NVDACon - so it's not simply a matter of popular opinion. Any proposal to move to an alternative platform also needs to consider how that platform will be funded and/or set up. Jamie On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:08 AM Lino Morales <linomorales001@... <mailto:linomorales001@...>> wrote: I didn't partake in the Con this year, however I vote for Zoom for 2021 and later. As you stated Joseph the hosts have more control. I'm been crowing about getting Zoom for the past couple of years pree pandemic. Glad it went well and hope to hear the recordings soon. On 12/7/2020 4:39 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:Hi all, First, it was great to see many people at NVDACon 2020. I personally consider this a successful event despite the pandemic and its effects. Although we had issues in the beginning, it ran smoothly, especially as the post-keynote QnA was very extensive. A few thank you’s: * Robert Hangi: chairing the organizing committee and upgrading the pre-keynote experience. * Laura Cornwell and friends: effective promotion, and for streaming parts of the conference. * Austin Pinto and other recording engineers. * Derek Riemer: infrastructure and providing support. * NV Access crew: another amazing keynote. * Presenters: for diversifying the topics. And most importantly, audience members who shared their passion for NVDA and giving organizers countless encouragements. Hope the event served as a healing moment for you. Second, based on actual experience and post-event feedback, I would like to suggest that organizers look into a different platform for NVDACon 2021 and beyond. Of course we have to think about accessibility and outreach, but mostly to help future conference moderators perform their tasks more efficiently. Zoom is a possibility, and Doug Lee apparently organized an Excel spreadsheet with potential platforms. I would also like to suggest that when a platform is chosen, organizers meet regularly using that platform to familiarize themselves as to how to use it effectively. Lastly, NVDACon Twitter feed is still alive. The next post from there will be done when recordings become available. I announced this after the closing forum, but this is to affirm that I will not be participating in NVDACon planning for next year. However, if people want me to, I can give coaching for presenters upon request – mostly to go over online presentation etiquette, how to respond to comments, and refining small things in content. Apart from that, I will be your biggest fan from the distance. May the NVDACon continue to bridge the community for years to come. Cheers, Joseph Joseph S. Lee Student (communication studies), California State University, Los Angeles Code contributor and add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project Certified NVDA Expert, 2019 Founding chair, NVDA Users and Developers Conference (NVDACon – 2014 to 2016-- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>